i really hope they have some DNA evidence in the Delphi case. He spent a lot of time outdoors, even camping under a bridge, and he's clearly a psychopath even if it's not him. This guy has been under investigation for about a week nowis he the guy? Really can't get around finding the child on the actual premises, injured and chained up in the basement. A poster upstream mentioned one of the girls' parent might have been in drug or gambling debt. I only started reading about the murders a few years after the murders. Okay doing my random check in. The bridge kid looks like this could be his dad. (R48) On reddit a women is claiming to have images of one little girl, deceased of course. WebJust to remind you guys, that the 'cause of death' is not the same as the 'mode of death'. Im assuming he means fear on her face as the guy approaches.I cannot imagine having to view images and crime scenes like this and then go home and live normally. Well, hmm. I wont link cuz DL doesnt like the Mail. [quote] Payback? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------. I thought I had accidentally hit the wrong setting on my surround sound tuner because the music was blaring and I couldn't hear the people speaking. Wish they had a chance to push the fucker off the bridge. They are really pushing this guy for some reason. I can't imagine the 13-15 year olds he would have been "catfishing" would have any memory or even the devices they owned from back then. The guy is way older. He had tons of outdoors activity on his social media. If they have someone who is 90% a good candidate for killer, I just have him "suicide.". I agree R307, I think this is their man. She got up and pushed at him, and he grabbed her by the throat. Is the person still in the community? Although the science of DNA was largely unknown in 1972, when Garnett was tried, there is the possibility that tests could be done now. A virtual walkthrough of the scene of the Delphi murders provides a look at how the suspect likely approached Abby Williams and Libby German. This case haunts me. If you look at the photo, there does seem to be the outline of a gun in the right pocket of the jacket and his hands are in his pockets. Just like serial killers of women, they have a "type" . I don't understand how people see a gun and a knife in that sweet little puppy he used to lure the girls down the hill. My impression just from the photo and his recording is that hes middle aged, has a fairly decent job, knew what he was doing and was comfortable, has pretty good taste in clothes, not a slob, people wouldnt suspect him, has a boat. People latch onto any clue (even ones that fall apart if you give it a second thought) and hound the police with them, even ones that have been already addressed (HE HAS TO BE OLD! (R52)- I totally agree that he knows the area very well and lives there. The guy on the video has nothing to do with the crime, but the cops think he does. In the thread, a poster has made several Photoshop images that show how the photo of Liberty used on the Missing posters matches up with a creepy tattoo on the guy's arm. Yes, this IS a very interesting thought/comment. The guy in the video is way older. The pouch/fanny pack that the Bridge Guy was wearing may have been a deer kill kit that contained a knife and other things. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in London, United Kingdom. This goes along with the theory they know who it is. The tattoo could be an archetype in his head that is his "type." Links to more Entertainment stories are at the foot of the page. Surely Im not the only one who made these observations. I remember when this happened, and thinking that they would have someone in no time. Does LE already know who it is? One day, months later, the father took his young son out hunting on some land that bordered the land of the boyfriends, the son was looking through the scope of the rifle and noticed something across from them, the father went to look through the scope and was shot and killed. The video shows to me a broad-shouldered guy with long skinny legs. Recent Reddit posts, some deleted, throw out the names Chr@stopher and V Nabors who live near Deer Creek. I'm not sure that's true, when the obituaries were published, one girl's date of death was the day after the other girl's, indicating that they must have known one died before midnight and one after, some time apart. liver disease, it has been revealed. What happened on that unusually warm February day remains a mystery to this day to everyone but Liberty German, Abigail Williams and the man who murdered them. In any case like that, there is always reason to have doubt, she said in an interview last week. No. , money, salary, income, and assets. Down the hill and two sketches from possible witnesses in the area the day the girls were murdered. This is not the situation with the Abby & Libby investigation. He looks similar build/type to the video. That doesnt mean he didnt know their parents or someone close to them someone he may have wanted to pay back. Why have you never released the FBIs suspect profile to the public? Yeah creepy. The tattoo is the image of the type of victims he kills. The police sketch that LE recently released (where the guy looks younger) was actually the first police sketch that was drawn. R178 He really needs to be pushed into an active volcano. I hope they arrest him, such senseless loss of life. This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. As more Delphi murders updates come in, all it takes is one phone call, according to State Police Superintendent Doug Carter. DELPHI Three years ago, two young girls went for a walk. R350, he's walking like that because of the bridge. In Part II, the sheriff stated he had been reported as a suspect at least 3 times and had been questioned. R42 Feb 15 is a Monday, not Saturday, apologies (again). The day the girls went missing, there were dozens of people looking for them. Will slip up and give a detail only he knows. Five months into the investigation, Indiana State Police released their first sketch and description of a suspect. For whatever reason I feel the killer is associated but not the family. i thought i read that this bridge was supposed to have signs posted saying not to cross it BECAUSE it was so dangerous, rotting wood, etc. Very interesting. A poster on Reddit works at an Indiana auto plant and tipped a guy who worked at the plant. The trial, in which the prosecution sought the death penalty against the then 19-year-old Garnett, lasted from Monday through Saturday night, and was featured on the front page of the Daily Local News each day. They were on another phone.". This guy walks to fast. This weirdo factory reset his phone the day of the murders. Klein, who is currently in police custody, was charged in August 2020 with 30 felonies, including child exploitation, possession of child pornography, obstruction of justice, and synthetic identity deception. Would a law enforcement officer carry a gun that way? You never know who is behind posts. Id love to have seen the sheriff photographed in the same position as the man in the photograph on the bridge and see if the images aligned. Police have other evidence that they have chosen not to share with the public. One girl in particular took the brunt of the attack. LE released the only the 2nd sketch shortly after the murders. Both images, shown below, depict the same white man wearing blue jeans, a blue coat/jacket and a hoodie. This case haunts me. I dont buy it at all. Cell phone signal is bad there thats why they were unable to call for help. HLN in 2020 released the immensely popular Down the Hill podcast, named after the suspects cryptic words in the audio clip taken from Libbys phone. This. Trying to recall which podcast, but it was raised with either a family remember it law enforcement. Knife kit, imo. Fouts was one of the members in the club. r288 that's chilling. Is that what they call methed up bottom bitches in Alaska? When you start patching together all of the little snippets, it seems like something very freaky was done with bodies. Also the video and audio are horrifying. When DN was temporarily a suspect he'd gone after someone with a hatchet or ax right? I watched a few things on 2 Youtube channels: Other things in the stuff that I just read: Abby was murdered first. Are there any possible POIs who are widely believed to be involved, or does everyone on Reddit have their own pet perp? Oh maybe their dads? Let's seeon one hand, this guy was found with a 9 year old girl chained up in his basement, having been kidnapped, sexually molested and beaten. I think he is the one who told the Delphi investigators to take a second look at KAK in connection to the Delphi Murders. She is not dating anyone. [R460], I don't understand this either: "Why would the Delphi sheriff say that people will be shocked when they find out the identity of the killer." Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in London, United Kingdom. Alonzo Brooks was murdered in a small town, too (Unsolved Mysteries, Volume 1). The girls' causes of death have never been disclosed and their killer has never been found. At least the FBI is investigating. The last of these was in 1990, opposite Prowse. "The information has obviously been sharedwith us, and our investigators are looking into him," Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby said of Chadwell's case. A fishing kit of some kind can be seen on his person, as well as a gun. R225 I was once a teen girl and yes you do walk just to walk sometimes. It looks terrifying even without the psycho killer lurking. [quote] Who the hell would walk that bridge, much less allow kids to walk on it alone? He convinced her that he loved her and when she agreed to marry him he coldly dumped her and never spoke to her again. Kind of odd that hed include the detail that he didnt know who would have called in a tip about him. It was emphasized that the police department felt like the perpetrator was present at the briefing. Imo, and made one cooperate by threatening to kill her friend if she did not obey him. Abby Williams and Libby German, the victims of the Delphi murders. He could have printed it out, traced it on his arm, and inked the crummy tattoo himself or had a buddy do it in 2016. Last night, I read through a long thread on Reddit and it was frightening, sad, and had information that I hadn't read before. It has been four years. Maybe a tree branch. They've said for years everyone there knows who did it, but it's never come out. I'm not yet convinced, he does fit the sketch, he is a real creep but that still doesn't prove he did it. The vague talk and all the initials instead of full names doesn't help most of us who clicked on that link. They are shooting themselves in the foot if they have no definitive DNA evidence because this case will go nowhere unless they exhaust the evidence they DO have. And while I understand there is need for some hold back, it's inexplicable they waited so long to release the video and audio. She had a career in acting and is most remembered for her roles in The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who Finally Died (1959), and The Avengers (1959). The bodies were discovered after a man's attention was drawn to the sight of 2 deer. The parents did a piss poor job of supervising their kids. I read the 2 Reddit forums about the Delphi Murders. His father was also arrested for child molestation or something similar years prior. Police should have been releasing more info in this case. The guy is a creep. Younger guy was based on a pic from Libby's phone, And that explains when the cops said "we've changed directions and you didn't think we would", They should have released a lot more information. Nations once lived in Indiana and faced charges in September 2017 for threatening people with a hatchet on a rural trail in Colorado. Maybe thats because the assailant was there to carry out a revenge killing/warning to Derek German for snitching and couldnt or wasnt willing to rape one or both tweens, and so killed them and left the bodies posed in a provacative, profane way to hurt the families and community. Very sorry. I cant imagine being a parent and not knowing when your child is or what your childs last moments were like. Again, after studying serial killers for decades I believe he was unknown to the girls. "When we decided that, through the information we received, that we were going to release the second sketch I dont believe the individual knew we were going to do that. The bridge has slats of decayed wood. This isnt him. Libby's photo looks like a school picture. Q. The Levi styled cut of his jeans and the Members Only aesthetic of the jacket suggest someone stuck in the styles of their youth. Idk why. I just read the link in R288 and hes a Trump supporter lol. Just seeing how close he was at this point in video and how the girls knew he was trouble, the thoughts going through their head at that time really fucking awful. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Now it looks like they were and by this fat pedo. The audio was part of a video file taken from Liberty's cell phone shortly before her death. We will update Delphi Lawrence's Height, weight, Body Measurements, Eye Color, Hair Color, Shoe & Dress size soon as possible. He posed bodies in a horrifying way. A. Imagine knowing the killer is in the community, could be someone you speak to everyday and they are just walking about as if nothing happened. They looked like sweet girls and it pisses me off that now the people there cant even enjoy those trails. He just needs to know when the trail exists, when it is empty, and that two women entered alone. Its some lone poster who think one of the grandfathers or both of them did it. READ | ISP call Liberty German a 'hero' for capturing audio, photos of suspect. Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby has been working the Delphi Murders case for four years. You can't see any such thing in a pic so low-res and Occam's Razor says it's just oversized/bulky clothing. Fouts also was a lawyer against Derrick's case in 2011 (35-43-4-2(a)/FD: Theft, 35-48-4-14.5(c)/FD: Possess Anhydrous Ammonia/Ammonia Solution w/ Intent To Manufacture Drug). Its been months, this guy clearly isnt the killer. Murder is horrible enough, but there is something about it being recorded and preserved that makes it profoundly more disturbing to me. Do you consider this a cold case? And isn't that area known as a popular place to hike, and i think people took wedding photos, engagement pictures there. It's too long to post them here. No details about that vehicle were released, including make and model, color or license plate number. That's got to be the guy. "We are confident you have told someone what you have done. . And interestingly he is web savvy. He told police he would find girls on Instagram and then ask them to talk to him on Snapchat. You have to wonder if amateur cyber sleuths are more of a hindrance than a help. The sheriff is also shaped like the man in the photos and videos. The last press conference bordered on ridiculous. The Snapchat photo shows Abigail walking on the abandoned railroad bridge. She graduated to lead roles but almost exclusively in "B"films. Information sent by email is kept confidential and is only shared with investigators. Please let there be some DNA evidence. go ahead, tease me, blow me out. A copy of Lawrence's death certificate showed the cause of death was "alcoholic liver disease". The disclosure ended speculation that Lawrence, whose body was found by her husband, Laurie Sautereau, at their home in Fulham, west London, on Saturday, had committed suicide. As described in the news stories about his trial by the late Daily Local reporter and editor Shirley McCauley, the case against Garnett was largely circumstantial. But c'mon, it's not the bridge, or Kelsi, or the parents who was the issue, it was this psychopath. Stay away from places like this. I lived near the Platte Canyon High School tragedy. She had gone to see him on March 6, 1971, hoping he would help smooth over her parents anger at her over a youthful transgression going to a party instead of staying with her brothers at a movie. What saddens me is that when (if) LE does arrest somebody, they'll crow to the skies in a self-congratulatory haze. Ridiculous to argue over whether it was/was not of Libby specifically. The public has been given two sketches, is the thought there is more than one person involved or is the second sketch the suspected killer? R150 I think theyve ruled that out. It's the ears. She is a member of famous Actress with the age 70 years old group. That next morning would bring a discovery that none of them were prepared for. That sketch, which appears to be of an entirely different person, is now believed to be the main person of interest in the murders of Libby and Abby. Maam? Q. It seems like a very bold murder when it's about controlling two people. The disclosure ended speculation that Lawrence, whose body was found by her His wife Cantor Cathy Lawrence confirmed the news to The Hollywood Reporter but did not specify a cause of death at the time. Someone dropped them off there too, so whoever did was obviously ok with them walking across a rickety, corroding bridge alone. The cops are probably not going to feed her all their information just in case. I haven't really followed this case, but I figured the a-hole murderer probably put one girl's face in the exposed crotch of the other girl. Kline said he had about 100 pictures from underage girls that were sexual in nature, in addition to about 20 sexually explicit videos. For more than two years. Police may soon be allowed to collect DNA samples from anyone accused not only convicted of a felony in the state. He would also carry himself with confidence and know the lay of the land. Investigators withhold evidence from the public all the time to help determine if someone they suspect is actually guilty. as he communicated with others. Leigh is both a male and female name, so no, hes not posing as a woman. Also, it looks as if he is carrying weapons, or a possible "kill kit". Our first cousin.. [The videos] help us know that people dont know [the true details], because the facts havent been released, Holeman said. Guys, the leaker, Leigh Kerr, will answer questions in an AM(almost)A tomorrow (Sunday) at 6:00pm EST. All that I could get my hands on. So let's not get personal over this, ok? Lawrence, speaking to the Daily Local News recently about the case involving his sister and Garnett, said that Delphi had become literally a ghost, for him remembered, but only as a spectral presence. There is a photo on the internet of Libby in her casket. The girls were found before noon the following day. The other girl just got caught in the cross hairs. This development, if you can call it that, seems desperate. Im not sure how that fits with religious iconography. I think this is the likely reason and if so it is a very clever tactic. Highly unlikely theyre not in the loop. By the end of the 1960s her roles began to decrease in frequency and importance and in 1973 she retired. Carroll County Sheriffs OfficeCarroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenvy has been working the Delphi Murders case for four years. If sexual assault wasn't the motive, the motive must have been something else we're not aware of - such as a payback for a parent's debt. ( R42) I think she hid the phone in her pocket. Any murder cases where there is audio/video of the act chills me to my core for some reason. Im guessing it wasnt this guy since its been a while without any news. It was news. We dont know how far this person or persons might have walked through that area. Didn't he force them to get in water at one point? The townsfolk felt like they were holding their breath all that time, and on October 31, 2022, they could finally exhale. Chadwell is not the first person accused of an abduction crime who has been investigated as a person of interest in the Delphi murders. If you are subpoened before a Grand Jury then you assert your Fifth to every single question. causes.". 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